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On a special episode of the OD’ing on Movies podcast, hosts Dr. Jacobi Cleaver and Dr. Jacob Wilson welcomed Dr. Darryl Glover, Dr. Ashley Johnson, and their children, Ariyo Glover and Rammona Johnson, to discuss Michael, the Michael Jackson biopic.
For Ariyo, a devoted Michael Jackson fan who enjoys recreating his dance moves, seeing the film in theaters was especially meaningful. Rammona was equally excited because she loves Jackson’s music and wanted to learn more about his life. Their shared enthusiasm made the conversation a lively celebration of music, family, and discovery.
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Favorite Moments and Music
The film’s performances were among the biggest highlights. Rammona especially enjoyed the “Smooth Criminal” and “Thriller” dance sequences, while Ariyo was moved by Jackson’s determination to make his music accessible to everyone, particularly his efforts to have “Billie Jean” and “Thriller” featured on MTV.
When asked about their favorite songs, Rammona selected “Billie Jean” and “Thriller.” Ariyo’s list extended across several eras and included “Dangerous,” “They Don’t Care About Us,” “P.Y.T.,” “Smooth Criminal,” and “Liberian Girl.” His knowledge also shined during a trivia challenge covering Jackson’s childhood, famous moonwalk, red Thriller jacket, pet chimpanzee Bubbles, and connection to Spider-Man.
Looking Beyond the Performer
The discussion also explored the person behind the fame. Ariyo spoke about Jackson’s vitiligo and charitable efforts, while Rammona reflected on the limited choices he faced as a young member of the Jackson 5. She described him as a deeply passionate person whose music everyone should experience at least once.
The adults connected these reflections to broader lessons. Dr. Glover emphasized that outward appearances rarely reveal everything a person may be experiencing. For eye-care professionals, that means approaching every patient with empathy, patience, and a willingness to understand their story.
Dr. Johnson highlighted Jackson’s extraordinary work ethic, precision, advocacy, and commitment to using his platform for a greater purpose. Dr. Cleaver added that Jackson’s career demonstrated the importance of self-advocacy and creating one’s own professional path.
A Legacy That Still Inspires
The episode revealed why Michael Jackson’s influence continues across generations. For Ariyo and Rammona, his legacy lives through music, dance, curiosity, and meaningful messages. For the adults, his story offers lasting lessons about resilience, compassion, excellence, and the courage to make an impact through one’s work.
